Monday 17 December 2012

GAY RIGHTS IN PAPUA NEW GUINEA


20 July 2011


This is a  foolish letter by Martyn Namarong. He wrote this on the eve of the expected decriminalization of gay and lesbian sex in the Papua New Guinea parliament. Namarong is a favourite son of the gay supporting PNG Attitude.

He won the Crocodile prize last year and recently mysteriously won the first prize offered by gay and lesbian supporting UNDP.

It helps to be a supporter of the gay and lesbian agenda in PNG.  Favourites get favouritism. The foreign gay, lesbian and paedophile organizations have suffered a mauling at the hands of family Positive Living.

Namarong is being polished as the silver bullet to destroy the Positive Living message. Good luck Martyn.

There are massive flaws in this letter. Namarong talks about PNG not being a Christian country. He ignores that all the other faiths in this country do not support a gay and lesbian lifestyle too. Certainly not the Moslems.

Namarong is very vague on how gay and lesbian people are discriminated against. I know several who work in Government and private enterprise. They go home to family each night.

Any hostility may be the result of foreign gays and lesbians encouraging such people to go out at night to nightclubs, hit a high profile and flaunt their sexuality.

I once saw a group of transvestite boys come into a Port Moresby hotel. They came in like the retinue of good Queen Bess. They shouted to one another in effeminate ways in the vestibule.

They laughed louder than all other patrons. They waved their arms and hugged and kissed one another. They annoyed people. Then they say that they are being stigmatized and discriminated against. Patrons were could only see the stupid exhibitionism.

So they were afraid, were they, Martyn? They needed laws to be changed, did they Martyn?

Namarong ignores the gay, lesbian and paedophile hidden agenda of takeover of bureaucracy, pushing sexual curriculum into schools, discrimination against the heterosexual community, working to destroy parental authority, rights with no responsibility or morality and brutality in gay and lesbian sex. Please click:

HUMAN RIGHTS WITHOUT MORALITY

FISTING IS GAY LOVE-MAKING

A BRAVE NEW WORLD

Read the writers who record that the letter below is brilliant.

Comments

Feed You can follow this conversation by subscribing to the comment feed for this post. I'd hate to think that by writing this, some folks have the impression that I think Christianity in PNG is irrelevant.

But just as the Muslims at Hohola dont expect Christian beliefs to be imposed upon them, I believe gays have the right to be gay if PNG is truly a free and democratic country.

I agree with Kela's assessment. My view on homosexuality is something that has developed out of my circumstance as a street vendor.

As I identify more with those despised by society such as street vendors and street kids, etc, I empathise with the gay cause.

It is a fact that many people look down on us street vendors perhaps not as bad as how gays are viewed.
That is why there is a consistent theme in all my writings and that is - social justice!


Martyn - You have stated and identified that the christian faith and bible have made important contributions to the constitution of PNG.

With the constitution being the soul of the nation, on which it conducts itself and identifies itself, it is clear PNG is a christian country.

But if we start introducing laws that contradict those in the constitution and hence the bible we will not be a christian nation.

The bible is a tried and tested book showing the laws that govern ones self (or body of people) to live a honest, healthy and happy livestyle within oneself (or body of people) and with others and the environment.

The bible is also a book that tells us about mankinds past, present and future and from the history lessons given in it it has shown time and time again the disasters that fallen upon nations like sodom and gomorrah and individuals like King Solomon when the Laws of the bible are not followed.

I myself was not present in Sodom or Gomorrah in its heyday or when King Solomon ruled Israel to tell you from experience that breaking the bibles law will send the nation of PNG down the path they took.

But I have experienced myself and witnessed individuals go through personal crisis when not following God's Law stated in the bible.

I pray PNG does not follow the downward spiral to disaster as shown in mankind's history of rebellion against God's Laws. I also pray for those who are pushing for these laws to be changed as they are fellow sinners like me.

But it is stated in the bible that all mankind will continue to pursue his/her lust of evil desires and mankind will desent into wickedness and will fight against Christ and his followers when he comes down to earth in the second coming.

Your Brother in Christ.


Post modern philosophers when pondering mankind’s state of existence often refer to three states of lifestyle which are characterised by the pleasant life, the good life, and the meaningful life.

Clive Hamilton, the Australian philosopher, writing on this subject exposes that:

“The pleasant life is one motivated by hedonism- the desire to maximise the number of emotional and physical highs that is the signature of modern consumer capitalism.

"The good life can be thought of a life devoted to developing and refining ones capabilities and thereby fulfilling one’s potential.

"The meaningful life the third approach to living whilst similar to the good life entails a commitment to something greater than oneself – a higher cause characterised by a pursuit of virtue or selfless moral principles.

"Whilst the first two ideals may appear to provide happiness such happiness does not necessarily occur because such ambitions are based upon materialistic and egotistical outcomes and that people who set themselves internal goals such as strong relationships, self development and contributing to the community indicating internal orientation, have higher levels of happiness to those who pursue external rewards”.

The Buddhists refer to reaching this state of happiness as being Nirvana achieved when one has found true enlightenment.

Very few manage to achieve the meaningful life, as it requires self-sacrifice and complete asceticism.

In our lifetime a few shining examples would be Ghandi, Nelson Mandella and the present Dalai Llama all of
whom, although varying in dogma had strong beliefs in religious thought.

The final thoughts on this matter are exquisitely summarised by American anthropologist Robert Gardner in his foreword to 'Gardens of War':

“Curiosity about one's fellow creatures is a hallmark of civilization. Should we ever lose interest in the way others live and look, we will have lost an important aspect of our humanity.

"This curiosity is not idle or sentimental; rather, it is a seeking to know about others' circumstances so as to better identify oneself and to see a little more clearly the direction in which we might wish our own identities to evolve.

"What might, then, seem no more than a colossal vanity may actually be the mainspring of our moral natures.

"By our very eagerness to find out about others and in our willingness to use this knowledge as a mirror, we can progress surely, if often slowly, down the road of human change and betterment.

"Man's great distinction is surely not his erect posture, which has not changed in hundreds of thousands of years, but his self-consciousness, which has created an endless variety of Life pathways.

"Indeed, change has so accelerated in the past few hundred years that it threatens to leave us poorer instead of richer.

Surely one of the most tragic themes of this century is the inexorable and irreversible decline of traditional societies and their values throughout the world”.


Ganjiki and Martyn have argued brilliantly on their convictions about amoral and morality of certain human inclinations and decisions.

They are two intelligent human beings giving logical arguments on why things should be done conventionally or should toe relativity (go with the winds of change).

To me the split on whether we should be relative or remain within the perimeters of the regular world (Church doctrines) depends on one’s upbringing.

For example, a man is a child of circumstances, of hardships and struggles radiated by the environment.

These experiences gave certain convictions, dreams and aspirations to different individuals and eventually they choose what they want to be and behave in certain ways.

That is why not everybody thinks and behaves in the same way.

Well, diversity is an asset and not an obstacle to development, as many people say.

Therefore, my conviction is to see everyone go about being whoever they want to be as long as they are safe in their endeavours and simultaneously do not pose threats to others in their neighbourhood.

I am a committed Roman Catholic (no condoms, homosexuality is amoral, etc) but that doesn’t stop me from talking to homosexuals and sex workers about the risks involved in anal sex and providing condoms to them to stop HIV transmission to their partners.

That I think is a noble thing to do to reduce the burden on the existing health system and cut costs on treatment.

I give them the benefit of doubt after giving them the information and condoms. Whether they refrain from being homosexuals or continue to have unprotected sex is entirely up to them.

It is not my business. If their inclinations are wrong, only the God Almighty has the power to acquit or to sentence, I don’t.

I willingly help to reduce harm to others and themselves.


This is a very good letter Martyn. Yes, sadly, no-one is free from sin. I'm sure the prisons are full of armed robbers, murderers and rapists. In fact, I wrote to one the other day.

If they put all who sin into prison we would all be there.

But as a Christian I feel sickened by the present push by homosexuals for equal rights re marriage and adoption etc, I believe in the sanctity of marriage between a man and a woman.

Children need to be born into a loving family with a mother and father.
I believe that as a Christian you have to love the person but hate the sin.

I believe that the punishment for any sin is eternal death.But as a Christian I have put my faith in Jesus Christ as my Saviour. He died on the cross as the sacrificial Lamb.

I wonder if PNG people can understand that concept.



Martyn - I like this letter. You've hit a lot of nails right on the head.
'The more knowledge the more pain'.
Christianity is still suffering from that fateful apple bite.


What an excellent letter/article. It is about time that a Papua New Guinean refuted the nonsense that PNG is a christian country and correctly asserts that it is a secular democracy.

As such, the views of the christian churches carry no more weight than the proponents of the modern universal rights which are not necessarily based on a 2,000 year old document with all its contradictions.

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